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Post by martingb on Jan 27, 2006 5:52:24 GMT -5
cgi.ebay.com/Adam-West-TV-Batman-12-Custom-figure-MIB-Dragon-1966_W0QQitemZ6032385637QQcategoryZ48965QQssPageNameA pretty nice looking figure in my opinion. The cape is great but there is too much of it for a TV Batman. More like a Gothic comic book style or how they drew the cape in the old adverts for the movie. The belt pouches lack a little detail which is a surprise when all the rest of the figure looks great. The pouches are also bigger than the buckle which itself is only as wide as the belt so this is a bit jarring visually. The head is particuarly well painted I think too. I believe it is that thin open-mouthed 'Diver' head. I must be honest and say I am not a particular fan of that sculpt, if this is indeed an example of one, but the paint job really improves it 100%. Top marks to the artist I guess. Check out this guys other stuff. Anybody here know him?  
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Post by Wild Willy on Jan 27, 2006 9:06:18 GMT -5
Not too bad of a job but with expectations of a $500 BIN, you would think the maker would have been more thorough in his attention to detail.
I believe your right about the Diver head, although this is as good as it may get, this sculpt always reminds me of the Scarecrow from the wizard of Oz classic. I believe it's the slim jaw and expression maybe.
Will
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Post by aburabusimbutu on Jan 28, 2006 1:34:22 GMT -5
This is indeed an odd one! There is some really nice work done here, but you can't help but wonder about how it got made this way.
Seems like the idea was to re-create the black and white ad if you look at the marked similarity. That would explain the enormous spread cape and the unusually dark cowl, gloves, boots and shorts too.
As a piece of unusual art, I could dig that concept.
BUT- if that is the theme of this piece then the yellow belt and logo, heck even the flesh colored face,pull away from that "high concept". So much so that it just looks like a lot was done wrong. In fact, it looks like a lot of effort went into making something that looks wrong.
If he had fully committed to the ad idea this would have ended up as a rather unique piece in my opinion. But instead it just looks confusing.
I agree about the head sculpt too- since the chin is critical on this guy, it really is noticeable that West's square jaw has been rendered much too thin. Looks like his head has sunken into the cowl.
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Post by martingb on Jan 28, 2006 4:26:37 GMT -5
I just dropped the ad in as a reference shot. I don't know, or think, the guy was looking to copy it. Maybe he was. I think he did an ace job with the head though. I have seen it before and never really liked it but this is without doubt the best rendition of it I have seen. Good to see so many 'Adams' on eBay though. Maybe it will encourage someone to bite the bullet and attempt to negotiate to put out an official one in stores. (Probably not though!!)
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Post by Wild Willy on Jan 28, 2006 12:27:47 GMT -5
I guess I've been spoiled in perfection after seeing the one below which sets the bar pretty freakin high as far as 12" West figs. don't know who on earth made this one but I hope mine turns out near as nice.  Will |
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Post by aburabusimbutu on Jan 28, 2006 14:06:47 GMT -5
Say! That one is about the best 12" West I've ever seen! Clever presentation too. You should find out who it is and invite him to join this site Will.
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Post by Figuremaster Les on Jan 28, 2006 14:42:54 GMT -5
Silver Prelude's the seller. He builds up figures. Others make the costumes and paint the heads etc. Scot always knows more about this stuff. I thought that was my headpaint. He says it's not. But I painted two heads for him a month or so ago that look just like that one. Guy says it's a Sovereign headpaint. How can one tell anyway. It looks exactly like mine. Maybe there is a difference in the brows though. Plus, it's either a reflection or his has teeth maybe? Not sure. What do you guys think?  BTW, if it is mine, thanks for the comments. If it's not...oh well...better luck next time.  |
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Post by martingb on Jan 28, 2006 18:25:38 GMT -5
Les, I thought this work looked good enough to be one of yours but if you ain't sure yourself we can at least say that somebody is looking to challenge you for the crown! Thanks for the nice words too Will. What is the deal with your large scale version. GI Joe style, Mego what we talking? I have another one to do myself now that I have a new head from Russ. Think this is gonna be a Medicom/Dragon type of thing. BTW Russ the Christopher Reeve heads are looking great. Chuck Heston too!
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Post by Wild Willy on Jan 28, 2006 18:35:26 GMT -5
My 12" West will be based on a Sideshow figure.
I havent done much on that project yet aside from sculpting the face. I plan to get to it very soon.
Will
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Post by BlackKnight on Jan 28, 2006 21:38:18 GMT -5
Well, So far as To what I've scene Posted here, Martie's is the Best 12" Adam West By Far. All the other's lack in some form or another as to what he Was able to Achive. Hats off to Martie!!!!!!! He Rules the 12" Adam West. |
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Post by nickvalor on Jan 29, 2006 1:54:15 GMT -5
The craftsmanship on this figure is really great and clearly done by some talented hands . . .
BUT . . . I SO wish that head sculpt would just go away! Les, you certainly did it justice with your paint work and made it look as good as it can probalby ever get. I've just really come to dislike that version of the West head becasue it's so odd looking.
Todd
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Post by radioscooter on Jan 29, 2006 14:49:34 GMT -5
The head pictured used by Silver Prelude IS the Diver 4 head but remember that it is a recast of a recast of a recast of the original Terry Reynolds (IDC) 1:5 scale statue/garage model head. You have probably seen this model in one of its 4 incarnations: a) posed with the phone b)posed with a batarang c) posed on the batpole d) posed with the bomb. The sculpt was only tweaked from the original a bit and the head was never resculpted. the original is not so squeezed in but we are looking at something recast so many times that it is looking pretty bad nowadays. The thing I like best about his doll are the tight fit of the sewn boots. But when you use spandex for all the bridal satin parts - it changes the look of the costume a bit for the worse. Plus his cape is unlined and that's an adhesive hem up around the edge which looks sloppy, IMO. It may just be the lighting but the suit seems too white/light too. I like the iea of what Will does - airbrushing the fabric of the suit. Then you can get the fit you like and the correct tone of the grey can be adjusted.
A word about Silver Prelude. I don't know him personally but my only contact with him has been questionable. He has inquired about pieces and methods before to me posing as a buyer and collector when in fact I believe him to be a customizer on his own as well. he has approached me about costume pieces and paintwork in the past and never remembers that he's already talked to me or that I know he is an "assembler" and that he then sells most of his "assemblies" on ebay. I am not judging or accusing him of anything worse than misrepresenting himself and his motives. He pays for things and can do with them what he wants but he never seems to be on the level about anything he's ever told me. My guess is that is Les' head and paintwork. I know Shawn from Sovereign and I have never heard of him doing West head yet. But - that's a guess, not fact.
Marty - fantastic job on your 12" West! Those are some of the nicest trunks and cape I've ever seen! The head I sent Marty for this is a casting of the Jim Paget 1:5 West statue sometimes called the Koma statue. It shows up on ebay sometimes and like other Wests, the paintjob can really make or break it. Marty did a great job illustrating this, IMO.
-S
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