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Post by faithfulbutler on Jul 6, 2005 19:00:34 GMT -5
Okay here's another question for you guys.Capes!
I spent ages last night trying to achieve the correct pattern and after many attempts gave up in disgust lol.I've done a few before but they've been the simple hanging out the back under a Cowl style.This time i need a full wrap around one and just can;t get the shape right.
What's the secret to getting the right shape and pattern?
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Post by BlackKnight on Jul 6, 2005 21:00:45 GMT -5
I really don't have a secret, I go threw about 3 or 4 tries before I get it somewhat right. I would like to know this secret as well.
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Post by martingb on Jul 7, 2005 2:54:41 GMT -5
I have a pattern for a Mego sized Adam West cape that I found on the internet. Works very well for me and does look pretty close to the real one in shape. It could easy be adapted for a more 'gothic' look or whatever I'm sure. It does indeed wrap all the way around. I guess you can enlarge or shrink as required depending on the size of the figure. www.megomadhouse.com/images/patterns_66batcapeaccessori.jpgA nice site in general too with some interesting patterns and Mego stuff covering Star Trek and WGSH etc. |
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Post by Wild Willy on Jul 7, 2005 8:06:04 GMT -5
I believe Marty is onto something. I do know that West's cape was a full half circle, so that looks correct.
Will
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Post by casimir on Jul 7, 2005 9:41:28 GMT -5
I assume we're talking cloth, yes? If not... I've got some vinyl techniques I've used. In fact, I'm working on a wrap-around/over-the-shoulder thing now. I can post some WIP pics if need be. But if we're only taking cloth, it would be moot.
I leave cloth to the experts!
C.
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Post by faithfulbutler on Jul 7, 2005 18:30:33 GMT -5
Well i work in both Cloth and Vinyl depending on what i want to achieve so all help is greatly appreciated guys.Cas i'd love to see your WIP for the over-the-shoulder thing,that would be a great help!
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Post by Figuremaster Les on Jul 7, 2005 19:02:22 GMT -5
This is good stuff!
I am doing me up a West and this pattern is a boon to my project.
I know that in contrast that the Keaton cape is almost a full circle. The West is at the least the half circle Will mentioned. This pattern looks about right. It's all about the number of points, the cut of the scallops and the spread.
The real trick is the length. You have to shape it to accomodate the shoulders, then the drop. It's not an wasy thing to get right.
You could write a book just on Batman capes.
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Post by BlackKnight on Jul 7, 2005 22:00:03 GMT -5
I tried to use that pattern for my Batman, however the page printed out did not include the cape.
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Post by Wild Willy on Jul 7, 2005 22:52:23 GMT -5
Jason, try right clikin on the picture and saving to your computer folder, and there you can print it out, and also alter the size if need be.
Will
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Post by casimir on Jul 8, 2005 8:45:10 GMT -5
I find it so interesting that the techniques between cloth and more rigid substances are so different. Why am I amused by this? I have no idea.
My background is in theatre, specifically prop and set design. (Though I'm not involved anymore. Too many whackos!) I'm also something of an armchair historian when it comes to western fashion (mainly 1800-1965 or so). Despite this, I can't sew more than a button, and even then it's a lousy job. The folks in the costume shop wouldn't let me near the machines!
FB, I'll try to get some images up tonight or tomorrow, since the images can explain better than my words.
C.
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Post by BlackKnight on Jul 8, 2005 17:53:52 GMT -5
Jason, try right clikin on the picture and saving to your computer folder, and there you can print it out, and also alter the size if need be. Will Thanks Bro!  |
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Post by Wild Willy on Jul 9, 2005 4:58:51 GMT -5
Anytime Pal  Hey! I think the Bat-belt pattern on that page is the same one I started off useing, before creating my own patterns. Will |
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Post by casimir on Jul 9, 2005 16:58:45 GMT -5
Okay, this is not at all related to cloth capes, but I mentioned I'd show it for FB, so here goes:  I call this a "wrap and shape" cape. I've done this a couple of times with good results. I wrap the figure's shoulders (or the whole figure) in cellophane/saran wrap/whateveryoucallit. I then slap on some Kneadatite (or your epoxy of choice) over the shoulders to create the "mantle." Once cured, the mantle is easily removed and the cellophane disposed of. I sand the mantle smooth, then using the Dremel I etch in a small depression/shelf all the way around, near the bottom edge (see the blue line). Along this shelf, I can then super-glue the vinyl cape, with a minimum of a seam. I still need to fill in a few spots, and the seam will always show a little. Overall, though, it's a solid method. I now return you to your regularly sheduled cloth discussion.  C. |
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Post by faithfulbutler on Jul 10, 2005 17:42:14 GMT -5
Cool Cas,that actually comes close to what i've been thinking of since i started this thread.Great method though i love it!And not only that i get a bonus sneak peek of an upcoming figure from you.Ra's is looking good!
Thanks for that.
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Post by casimir on Jul 10, 2005 19:43:06 GMT -5
Glad I could help, FB! I've had this one lying around for quite awhile. Of course, another customizer beat me to the punch using the same base figure (but a cloth cape). Eh. Methinks I've made some improvements.
C.
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